Surface machines with water driven bars vs. Belt driven bars

[John-Clean County PW]

Many know I have a Swabby and without counting some down problems I had with it because of some doings of my own fault like popping the clutch in and driving like a madman and then blowing up the Clutch..DOH... Basically Belt Driven Surface machines clean much faster then water driven machines. The answer to that is easy. The belt driven bars turn into the the water stream that is cleaning while the Water Driven bars push away from the water impacting the ground while its cleaning.

What do you guys think about this?? I will say due to the extra weight of the belt driven surface machine they should be self propelled to like a lawn mower because they can be heavy.

Here's a picture of Rob Huffman(Haha caught you taking one for a spin) and another walk behind machine I was looking at a Convention before the opening a few years ago.

[Innovativewash]

Have you ever timed the speed compared to say a 20 inch surface cleaner? Are you accually cleaning faster for the size and clumbsiness of the machine. I would think that it would more fit a contractor doing parking garages or large areas only. Whats the cost of the machine? Looks like a ride on lawnmower that would cost maybe $8-$10k. Looks cool though.

[splashandash]

John they most likely do clean a little better as far as faster who knows unless you put them side by side. I dont see a surface cleaner thats as big and bulky as a swabby or a turbo twister being cost effective unless its uesd for very large areas of concrete. That being said I want a swabby just dont want to pay for it so until I build the greggy Im out of luck.

[John-Clean County PW]

Have you ever timed the speed compared to say a 20 inch surface cleaner? Are you accually cleaning faster for the size and clumbsiness of the machine. I would think that it would more fit a contractor doing parking garages or large areas only. Whats the cost of the machine? Looks like a ride on lawnmower that would cost maybe $8-$10k. Looks cool though.

Jim all my other surface machines are water driven and belt driven blows them away....but yes where talking mainly for large Surface area's to be cleaned. The best way I can explain this that most people can relate to would be Cutting lets say and couple of acre's of grass. Since where in the cleaning business I'll compare it to the Lawn cutting business(Landscaping) and nothing to do with "Joe the Homeowner". Its like cutting those few acres with a Ride on 48" machine or walkbehind self propelled large Scag mower or whatever type and then trying to cut the same amount of lawn with a Push behind 20" surface machine. To top it off you have to factor in that the Belt driven bars are driving into the surface being cleaned also then the bars pushing away from the surface being cleaned.

On Residential work or smaller cleaning surface areas like store fronts on most cases the Water Driven surface machines are good enough.

[GrimeBusters]

Not to mention the lack of fatigue "factor" if using a vacuum surface cleaner compared to a Swabby or other driven surface cleaner/vacuum systems.

Jim all my other surface machines are water driven and belt driven blows them away....but yes where talking mainly for large Surface area's to be cleaned. The best way I can explain this that most people can relate to would be Cutting lets say and couple of acre's of grass. Since where in the cleaning business I'll compare it to the Lawn cutting business(Landscaping) and nothing to do with "Joe the Homeowner". Its like cutting those few acres with a Ride on 48" machine or walkbehind self propelled large Scag mower or whatever type and then trying to cut the same amount of lawn with a Push behind 20" surface machine. To top it off you have to factor in that the Belt driven bars are driving into the surface being cleaned also then the bars pushing away from the surface being cleaned.

On Residential work or smaller cleaning surface areas like store fronts on most cases the Water Driven surface machines are good enough.

[GrimeBusters]

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