Government involvement Poll

**Tony Shelton** · 09-22-2010, 10:10 PM

Frankly I'm shocked at the lack of morals shown by the vote. Of course I will have to accept that the majority had accepted this kind of corrupt behavior as "the way it's done in America".

But I will never participate in it.

Print it, save it, you can hold on to it till we are all dead but you will never be able to throw this thread back in my face and show that I participated in anything of this sort. Regardless of how "accepted" it is, it's dirty business and elevates cleverness above quality work. (Remember, "the serpant" was more clever than all the other animals.) Clever doesn't make right.

I'll give you an example. We get calls all the time from companies wanting to "purify the air" using our filters. I immediately tell them that our filters nor any other HVAC filters CANNOT purify your air under any cirumstances. HVAC units don't have the air turnover to do that. I can't tell you how many thousands I've lost to scumbag companies who will lie to the customer and tell them what they want to hear. I've done the testing myself. Air purification is IMPOSSIBLE via the HVAC system and I WILL NOT market that way even though that is the ACCEPTABLE way to do it. We can make air somewhat cleaner, but that's it.

There are air filter companies who have gone to school board meetings and convinced the school that due to HEALTH concerns they MUST go from MERV 6 to MERV 8 filters because they happen to install MERV 8's and have the ability to scare the district with lies. They fail to inform the board that a 1/4 inch gap between two Merv 8 filters or at the end of a filter rack turns that filter into a MERV 4. (almost ALL units have 10mm or more gaps!)

We might lose some money. So what. I sleep good at night. The money we make isn't dirty money. God takes care of all our needs. I just don't understand how this country got to where it is today.

**Tony Shelton** · 09-22-2010, 10:13 PM

On the other hand, I fail to see anything morally wrong with paying referral fees. I understand that a "kickback" would be if I paid a sum of money to someone in the government or a business who was in a decision making capacity, but I don't see anything wrong with offering percentage spiffs for leads or closed deals. Maybe someone can help me understand where that is morally wrong.

**John Orr** · 09-23-2010, 08:39 AM

If you are a professional it is perfectly acceptable to lobby the local/state/federal government and...

Tony, I think if we could see the rest of the poll question, the vote might be different. As it is, I don't have a problem with it. Obviously, the intent of the question is different. Could you post the rest of the poll question?